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Why Top Economists See Crisis Looming Ahead — and “We Don’t Have Plan B!”
By Shlomo Maital

Peter Day
BBC Global Business broadcaster Peter Day recently interviewed four top economists and economic historians, all of whom have deep experience in the real world, and came away with some alarming predictions about the rocky road ahead.
The economists were: Kenneth Rogoff (formerly chief economist for the International Monetary Fund), Simon Johnson (MIT Sloan School management professor), Raghuram Rajan (Booth Business School, Univ. of Chicago, professor, who predicted the current crisis) and Sushil Wadhwani (City of London Wadhwani Asset Management fund manager, former director of strategy at Goldman, Sachs, and a member of the Bank of England’s monetary policy committee).
If you prefer not to read this overly long blog, here are a few excerpts. If they worry you, then please do read on.
“We seem to be forgetting 1937, we’re getting significant global tightening, grafted on to a tightening of the global banking system”, precisely what happened in 1937..” “We’re still winding up for another global meltdown”… “we shouldn’t delude ourself…in some ways we’ve postponed the day of reckoning.. V shaped recovery? No, it’s a V-sign recovery, we’re going to get a big shock about the hangover that this crisis has left us with”.
1. Kenneth Rogoff, Harvard U. Professor, co-author of the new book This Time is Different: “Is this crisis different? No. I think arrogance, ignorance are eternal characteristics of man Americans want to put off the day of reckoning… we should try to close up deficits in 4-5 years, convince financial markets they will do it… try to be credible, not to go too far too fast… Could there be a downward spiral, a tipping point? Absolutely, if you owe a lot of money, keep needing more, to fund new deficits or to pay back old loans as they come due, you need credibility… if financial markets decide not to lend to you….you’re greased, no-one will give you money, so governments just have to be credible, they can’t just spend and spend. The capital markets need to see there is some discipline down the road… if they see you riot in the streets when little spending cuts happen (Greece)… they (markets) can be merciless… “
2. Sushil Wadhwani: “Policy makers said 18 mos. ago, they wouldn’t make the mistakes made in 1937, or that Japan made… but we now have the tightest fiscal stance in 30 years, this could be a significant mistake..we have almost coordinated global fiscal tightening at a point in the business cycle when the global economy was set to slow anyway, because the inventory contribution was set to diminish, fiscal tightening will make the shift to consumption and investment less likely… I think this significantly increases the downside risks to this recovery… my real worry is, we don’t seem to have a plan B. Support for fiscal tightening …we can’t suddenly reverse it… interest rates are already very low, quantitative (monetary policy) easing effects are unproven…in economies with debt hangover where an asset bubble has burst it is hard to get monetary policy to be effective…we are now vulnerable, if a horrible event tips us into a recession, the markets will start worrying there is no policy ammunition left. Policy makers have no Plan B!! Three things could go wrong. a) The Greeks could decide to restructure their debt before 2012, if no firewall is in place, this could be problematic, b) Europeans have announced a 750 b. Euro stabilization package, but we all know the money isn’t really there, it includes the German quota from
the IMF, and contributions from Spain, Italy, Portugal, which may not be there… c) in 3 years time, the stabilization mechanism expirres, and the renewal date is just a few months before the German election… there is no Plan B”.
“It is sad we are not learning the correct lesson, people are not always wiling to admit to mistakes, there is not enough contrition being shown. We are not reforming the system in the way it needs to change. Wall St.: the banks have recaptured the system, gotten off lightly so far, they have political clout. Central Banks have not observed the appropriate lessons, not even willing to admit to their mistakes, same is true of financial regulators who made grievous mistakes, there were plenty of warnings around, not just stopped clocks in the private sector…Central bankers of smaller countries regularly warned the big Central Banks. In larger countries, no one paid attention… e.g. Sweden, Australia, Norway…they frequently warned their colleagues, no attention was paid, the opposite: e.g. in 2001 in a G10 working party, what should be done with financial regulation? Chair was the Gov. Of the Swedish Rijksbank, he made impressive recommendations, US and UK suppressed the report, it came out only as a think tank report…it got in the way of free markets, so it was not what the US and the UK wanted then. There were plenty of warnings. It was a classic bubble. Hard to know when and how it bursts, but it is clear that at some point it will go awry, we relied on the Greenspan mopping up doctrine, we could deal with it afterward, even though history shows mopping up doesn’t work. “
3. Raghuram Rajan “Banks got themselves into such a mess, governments had to bail out system. They are now at the mercy of the verdict of the same financial markets. There is an unholy nexus. The Political Left wants to see bankers as the problem. The Political Right wants to see the government as the problem. The fundamental problem of capitalism is: how to get them to work together in a way that is sensible, with bankers not feeding off govt. and vice versa…govt. in US wanted a political goal, more lending to low-income segments, bankers took advantage of this and made a ton of sub-prime loans and got into trouble, govt. came to their rescue with bank bailouts… this is an unholy nexus, taken to the next stage, banks now hold a significant portion of govt. debt, govt. And govt. is the backstop for the banks..this is where we need to figure out how to break the bank/govt. nexus. Small steps in financial sector reform are not enough.”
4. Simon Johnson (author of The Baseline Scenario, a widely-read blog and co-author of 13 Bankers: on the way banks have the whole American system in their bear hug…)
“We have 2,400 pages of Financial Reform Act legislation, very little of it will make any difference, the lobbyists have done a terrific job… it won’t reduce risk as we go forward in the next cycle. The next bailout could be bigger… as a Greece scenario, you can’t afford to do a bailout, too big to fail becomes too big to save…very bad further outcomes, Great Depression…nowhere is it written you can’t repeat the 1930s, you can, if you let the financial system go mad… There’s enough debt to be dangerous,we don’t even know its dimensions, derivatives are opaque, have been secretive, we don’t know if derivative positions would limit the damage of an asset crash or amplify it… you only find out, the Minister of Finance only finds out a few hours before the decision of bailout or bust.
“Is Chinese growth a global trump card? The G20 hopes so. At their last summit, they said, expect everyone to engage in austerity, but we don’t think it will lead to serious downturn, something good will happen to offset it — growth in China. In China they are trying to cool things down. Chinese academics, those who study the Chinese economy, they were sceptical about China. … Is a Third Great Depression is looming? There may be a financial boom, not so good for regular people, and another form of debt cycle, expansion, funded by inflow of capital, mostly debt, things will go well for a while, optimism everywhere, you won’t interview us negative peole, and then, another crash — how big, how damaging? The financial system is too big, it doesn’t help, it only transfers money from us to the financial sector, but it has political power that is resisting reform, politicians if they try to reign in financial power, think it will cause economic disaster — but the exact opposite is the truth!”
Peter Day. “History teaches us something is wrong here, but I doubt many of us know what it is.”